Do immuno suppressants affect your teeth? I know that they affect your gums... but im just not to sure about teeth.?
Andrea
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Immuno suppressants and teeth
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JMan
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Some immunosuppression can affect some peoples gums by causing swelling & or bleeding ( gum disease or gingivitis).
The Novartis site TalkTransplant lists the side effects of some of the drugs, Cyclosporin is noted for sometimes causing "swelling or overgrowth of the gums".
http://www.talktransplant.com/Kidney/Me ... tions.aspx
Some drugs can affect developing teeth (eg permanent staining and suchlike). Other than that I've not heard of any direct problems from transplant meds. Its worth remembering though that you are at a higher risk of infections because of them & this includes tooth & gum issues.
However following the advice of a good dental hygeinist usually prevents any major problems. (Eg brushing at least twice a day, regular flossing and eating or drinking sensibly.)..
If in doubt, consult your renal peeps &/or your dentist.
HTH
The Novartis site TalkTransplant lists the side effects of some of the drugs, Cyclosporin is noted for sometimes causing "swelling or overgrowth of the gums".
http://www.talktransplant.com/Kidney/Me ... tions.aspx
Some drugs can affect developing teeth (eg permanent staining and suchlike). Other than that I've not heard of any direct problems from transplant meds. Its worth remembering though that you are at a higher risk of infections because of them & this includes tooth & gum issues.
However following the advice of a good dental hygeinist usually prevents any major problems. (Eg brushing at least twice a day, regular flossing and eating or drinking sensibly.)..
If in doubt, consult your renal peeps &/or your dentist.
HTH
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Andy
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The reason why i ask is that, im 19 i had my one and only filling at 15, I went to the dentist the other day (a new dentist) who told me i need 8 fillings. I last saw the dentist about 8 months ago. It just doesnt seem to make sense. The only thing i could put it down to would be my immuno suppressants...
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JMan
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Or your old dentist missing stuff, or your new dentist cashing in on needless fillings???
I don't have an answer really and I'm getting suspiscious & cynical in my old age but if ya look after your teeth then the sudden need for 8 fillings IS odd, I agree..
I'm under 30 and have had 3 transplants worth of immune suppression FWIW with no fillings so... ??? Anyone????
J
I don't have an answer really and I'm getting suspiscious & cynical in my old age but if ya look after your teeth then the sudden need for 8 fillings IS odd, I agree..
I'm under 30 and have had 3 transplants worth of immune suppression FWIW with no fillings so... ??? Anyone????
J
Andy
I'm inclined to agree with JMan here - that sounds VERY odd. I can't imagine that in 8 months, your mouth has gone from a healthy state to one of such deterioration. Sounds like a cash-in to me.
My sis recently had the same experience. She was told by a new dentist in Nottingham that she had suffered early childhood trauma to her teeth and would need over £1000 worth of treatment (privately you understand). Like me, she is very cynical about this sort of thing, and registered at another dentist - who told her that there was no evidence of trauma and that the proposed treatment was totally unnecessary.
I would definitely seek a second opinion before you agree to this treatment.
Sorry if this sounds a bit harsh, but I would hate to think of you being put through this just to line someone's pocket.
Let us know what happens.
Ruth
I'm inclined to agree with JMan here - that sounds VERY odd. I can't imagine that in 8 months, your mouth has gone from a healthy state to one of such deterioration. Sounds like a cash-in to me.
My sis recently had the same experience. She was told by a new dentist in Nottingham that she had suffered early childhood trauma to her teeth and would need over £1000 worth of treatment (privately you understand). Like me, she is very cynical about this sort of thing, and registered at another dentist - who told her that there was no evidence of trauma and that the proposed treatment was totally unnecessary.
I would definitely seek a second opinion before you agree to this treatment.
Sorry if this sounds a bit harsh, but I would hate to think of you being put through this just to line someone's pocket.
Let us know what happens.
Ruth
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Art from Ontario
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DENTAL RIP OFF
Hi Andy:
I agree with JMan & Ruth...the dentist sees a young person
and thinks money...money
get a diffeent dentist
I agree with JMan & Ruth...the dentist sees a young person
and thinks money...money
get a diffeent dentist
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hiya andy,
i agree with everyone. lol. find another dentist. however, if another dentist confirms it, then you know what you need to do.
i don't know if immunosuppressants cause tooth deterioratioin, but i can tell you what does. when you are hospitalized a long time, which you were, they aren't so on top of cleaning your teeth, and teeth can really deteriorate at that time. however, you usually don't know till years later. i'm saying that a year of bad tooth care and issues can make your teeth prone to cavities years later.
my sister had braces on her teeth twice, and for so many years. she had no cavities then, but only recently (and she REALLY cleans her teeth well now) got heaps of cavities. so her dentist (the 2nd one btw) said that all those years with braces and she wasn't so careful and stuff, it catches up to you now.
but i'm hoping your dr. is a silly prat who doesn't know how to read an x-ray and your new dentist will tell you your sparkling white teeth are free of any cavities!!!
i agree with everyone. lol. find another dentist. however, if another dentist confirms it, then you know what you need to do.
i don't know if immunosuppressants cause tooth deterioratioin, but i can tell you what does. when you are hospitalized a long time, which you were, they aren't so on top of cleaning your teeth, and teeth can really deteriorate at that time. however, you usually don't know till years later. i'm saying that a year of bad tooth care and issues can make your teeth prone to cavities years later.
my sister had braces on her teeth twice, and for so many years. she had no cavities then, but only recently (and she REALLY cleans her teeth well now) got heaps of cavities. so her dentist (the 2nd one btw) said that all those years with braces and she wasn't so careful and stuff, it catches up to you now.
but i'm hoping your dr. is a silly prat who doesn't know how to read an x-ray and your new dentist will tell you your sparkling white teeth are free of any cavities!!!
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Re: Immuno suppressants and teeth
Looking through old posts as I have been to the dentist again recently and had to have a heap more fillings. i am convinced that I don't take that bad care of my teeth.
And am sure thought is either down to my meds or the fact that for a good couple of months my teeth weren't cleaned to my standard as I was unable to do so.
I am aware that I do need to change a couple of habits.
And am sure thought is either down to my meds or the fact that for a good couple of months my teeth weren't cleaned to my standard as I was unable to do so.
I am aware that I do need to change a couple of habits.
Re: Immuno suppressants and teeth
My gums bleed when I brush my teeth and they didn't before the tx, I never made the connection.
Dentists are expensive here, a half hour hygeniest visit costs £50 and a filling is the best part of £200, no dental care on the NHS unfortunately and the dental service is more about cash extraction than dental care.
Dentists are expensive here, a half hour hygeniest visit costs £50 and a filling is the best part of £200, no dental care on the NHS unfortunately and the dental service is more about cash extraction than dental care.