DIY SOS

[Daisy4246]

I watched this programme which was very interesting about a mum with CKD who was having her home ready for HD. So happy for her as they did a great job on her house. She has very young children so that's even harder. However it left me a bit sad when builders were crying at the size if the machine and were surprised she needed that to stay alive, like many of us here. Also when l heard them say life expectancy on HD at the unit is only 5-10 years l was shocked as I'm sure this is not the case and again it left me sad. I want to live longer and l haven't heard this. I'm sure some of it was for good tv. Does anyone else have any thoughts?

[freddyy]

I have also seen similar numbers for survival here in Sweden. Statistics for dialysis survival is not great, but as my neph. nurse told me, many people who start dialysis are elderly or have other illnesses which will skew the survival rates. She told me not to worry in case I would end up as a long time patient on dialysis.

[wagolynn]

The (medical) intention is, dialysis keeps you going whilst waiting for a transplant.

[rheaybou]

It was a brilliant episode of an amazing show, it shows the lack of exposure people have to others who are going through dialysis and the impact it has on your life and those who love you.

My one concern is this 5-10 year life expectancy, this is a number. A number that doesn't show that the average age of a patient on dialysis, other health issues and the reason they passed away. Just to let you know, the average age of dialysis patients in the UK in 2013 was 65!

https://www.renalreg.org/wp-content/upl ... -final.pdf

[chrisb]

I watched that programme as well. I think they over egged the pudding for the non-educated, which isn't a bad thing but also it was scary for those of us already on dialysis with their 'facts'. I felt the need to check out the life expectancy quoted with my Neph and he also told me that it depends on alot of factors including age when starting and other medical problems such as diabetes. I thought the crying was a bit OTT.

[JMan]

I watched this programme which was very interesting about a mum with CKD who was having her home ready for HD. So happy for her as they did a great job on her house. She has very young children so that's even harder. However it left me a bit sad when builders were crying at the size if the machine and were surprised she needed that to stay alive, like many of us here. Also when l heard them say life expectancy on HD at the unit is only 5-10 years l was shocked as I'm sure this is not the case and again it left me sad. I want to live longer and l haven't heard this. I'm sure some of it was for good tv. Does anyone else have any thoughts?

She did I believe have PKD and underlying problems.. I do think it would be good for Alan to do a one year on program (not more as some of the 'clients' haven't exactly been spring chickens.

I've spend much of my childhood on heamo in the unit (5 or 6 onwards) many of my uni years, and a good few years in 2005 when my last transplant packed it in. I've been on home heamo for the last 10 years, I've just moved and I'm starting on a new chapter with a different home machine.

There IS a statistical fact that your more likely to get an infection in the unit, also those in the unit mostly are elderly patients (not all), and your getting less dialysis than home patients do so more stress on the heart, toxin buildup between sessions etc etc:)

[Epgibbons]

Hi all,
I know someone who has been on HD at home for 35 years and appears OK- he cycles around town. I think the issue could be that the best dialysis is HD at home every day for ~2.5 years.

In my case my heart is failing so a transplant is not possible.

[Nicke]

The medical statistics for Sweden: if you are +65 your survival in dialysis are 15 percent after 5 years.

Source in Swedish: https://www.nllplus.se/For-vardgivare-i ... ortalitet/

But if your are "only" a none-smoker old timer it will be much better survival-rate.

BUT most elderly CKD patients have problems as diabetes , strokes, cardiovascular problems, cancer, calcification and on.

It takes it toll.

Best you can do is to take care of your self with nutrition, and vitamins. Especially Vitamin D and K2, as I wrote about it in another thread.

Malnutrition is part of the MIA syndrome (malnutrition, inflammation and ateroskleros).